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I can understand his anger at his daughter’s behavior, but his destroying a perfectly good computer was destructive and childish: he could have donated it to some charitable organization for their office use. I predict a wretched future for this family.
There are so many other ways to punish effectively. I guess he just had to use his gun for something. Good example on how to settle a dispute, use a gun. He could have just as well stomped it with his cowboy boots. I have to agree with Gordon. Why waste a resource?
Let’s hope that the life-lesson(s) to be learned by the disrepectful-repeat-offender-entitle-minded teen are more valuable than the replaceable laptop the teen used to repeatedly offend on, purchased by this fed-up father, and disposed of in the manner he freely had choice of.
@Chita. I agree. The laptop was his to destroy as he wished. The fact that he decided to use a gun is irrelevant to the lesson to be learned here by his daughter.
Then, Greg, If she would have used her mouth and voice instead of Facebook and a computer, it would have been alright for the father to pistol whip her face. after all the gun is irrelevant.
Even the method of punishment teaches something to the young girl.
A gun is really for defense or hunting. Using it in place of a hammer seems excessive, not to mention dangerous.
I was just saying that there are better ways to punish and even though he bought the computer, wasting a resource that could have been donated to educate a more deserving child would make more sense than destroying it by any means.
Just my 2 cents. I probably should not have gotten involved here. Should have left it as a drive by.
@Calvin: Right, thats exactly what I said, I said that he should have pistol whipped his daughter in the face.
Wow, you ok there, you took a big leap and I don’t think you meant to.
or…..
def: Troll: One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.
To be very clear, incase the sarcasm did not come through, I in now way said or implied that he should use the gun for other purposes.
What I did say is its his gun and his property, he can shoot the computer if he wants to.
Cal,
You took a big illogical leap here with the “pistol-whip” comment.
Yes, the method of punishment can teach. This father (within the confines of the law) did what he felt appropriate for the situation, using his tool of choice. That is his right!
Just as it is your right not to agree with and have other differing opinions. But you have taken it to a different place with your comment. Your comment concerns me more than anything this father said or did.
“Wasted resource?” I doubt if this life-lesson was wasted. She’ll remember this before she pens another bad or disrespectful remark about anyone ever again.
I think the issue here is not whether he had a right to destroy the computer: he did: but whether he could have reprimanded his daughter in a less hateful and violent way. He could have said,”You will write a letter of apology to me and post it on Facebook for your friends to read. Then, for every three hours of housework you do, you will get a half-hour of computer time. Otherwise, I will sell your computer and buy your mother something special,” To me, shooting the computer, for which he worked many hours to buy, was self-defeating and stupid. He taught his daughter to fear, not respect, him. I know there are many possible ways of handling this problem; I just think he did it badly.
(Another thing that bothered me; he stated he was using exploding, hollow-point rounds which I believe are illegal}.
The issue is that he has the right to discipline his daughter and not be judged by anyone who doesn’t live in his home and walk in his shoes. “Hateful” is a matter of opinion. I think the manner in which the teen laid out that Facebook post was hateful, not shooting up a computer. Do you really think that your remedy would work with that teen? Have you really taken a look at the 21st century teens? Their entitlement attitudes makes them numb to common courtesy, respect, and common-sense.
You are entitled to think he handled it badly. I don’t have a problem with how he handled it. We both have that right. And the authorities did go to his home. Evidently, they had no problem with the bullets and him shooting up the computer, either.
Well, I guess we agree to disagree. All I know is, in my Northwest Detroit neighborhood, if someone did what this man did, my neighbors, most of whom own a weapon and have young kids, would assume this man was deranged, call the police and be all over this guy like ugly on an ape. In Detroit, he would be arrested for firing a weapon, charged and heavily fined, and have his weapon confiscated, all of which is fine with me. I would not like to live anywhere near this guy.
I do not share your opinion on contemporary teenagers. The few I know are respectfully argumentive (as they should be), well-informed, politically and socially active and likeable. Some are difficult, just as some adults are. I’ve enjoyed this discussion and respect your opinion as I always have.
Yes, Gordon, we agree to disagree and have respectfully done so. 🙂
If this had happened in a neighborhood, I agree with you. The father chose a large field, away from everything to do the deed. He was “thoughtful” about what he was doing.
My opinion is on entitle-minded-disrepectful-contemporary teens like the one referenced by this father, not all teens.
Discussion: Ditto. 🙂
Good points, well-taken.